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Что даёт армия?

Сообщение Teka » Пн янв 10, 2011 11:14 pm

Мне вот стало интересно. Многие служили. Мужчины так большинство. И пускай это была не Израильская армия. У кого-то служили уже дети. Что даёт армия человеку? Вот Вы конкретно можете сказать, что армия пошла Вам на пользу или Вашим детям? Может наоборот многое испортила и Вы зря потеряли драгоценное время?
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Re: Что даёт армия?

Сообщение ksenyako » Вт фев 08, 2011 3:54 pm

Я никогда не служила, но вот дедушки у меня военные, да и муж тоже офицер. Так что могу смело сказать, что армия дает ответственность , исполнительность, многих детей она воспитывает и выбивает дурь из головы. Я не говорю про русскую, украинскую армию, там действуют свои жестокие законы.
Так же армия в Израиле дает огромный опыт в работе, и если ты пошел на службу после университета, то это твой самый настоящий старт ап.

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Re: Что даёт армия?

Сообщение Maral » Вт фев 08, 2011 5:36 pm

Служил, в свое время в советской армии, в военно-транспортной авиации. Вопрос, который Вы задали непростой и неоднозначный. Кому-то армия дает много пололжительного, кому-то - отрицательного, кому-то просто ничего не дает. Не каждому нравится служба. Мне, например, не понравилась и армия ничего не прибавила, но и не убавила. Кое-какой жизненный опыт все же дала. Но и без него я бы мог прожить не хуже. Но есть люди, которым нравится служить, они находят в этом свое призвание. Таким людям она дает многое. Но без армии никак нельзя в нашем неспокойном мире. Если убрать все отрицательные моменты, вроде дедовщины, то многих она взрослит. А это не так уж и плохо. :ok:
Ёж птица гордая -пока не пнешь, не полетит!

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Re: Что даёт армия?

Сообщение Леночка-просто-Ленка » Вт фев 08, 2011 10:01 pm

Моя семья вся-офицеры...военно морские...подводники....муж..четыре его сводных брата и свекр и его два брата - были подводники
папа был военно морской офицер в отставке...
все порядочные честные верные и очень надежные...знали цену жружбе и мужскому слову-жизнь и служба на пододке и на военных базах откладывает свой отпечаток..там падаль не приживается....там счет на жизнь человеческую....у них свое братство...
Тут в Израиле сын отслужил в самом престижном подразделении в стране...и в самом опасном..и уже 6 лет после армии сейчас в бригаде антитерор ..это как ваша альфа.....
Муж и его сводные братья пошли в Нахимовку -послевоенный набор....вся жизнь с девяти лет связанна с армией....
сын почти 9 лет служит.....
в армию идут детьми-там взрослеют и возвращаются мужиками!
Моисей сказал — все от Бога. Соломон — все от
головы. Христос — все от сердца. Маркс — все от
живота. Фрейд — все от секса. Эйнштейн сказал,
что все относительно. Сколько евреев — столько и
мнений.
будем жить!

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Re: Что даёт армия?

Сообщение horda » Пн фев 14, 2011 2:38 pm

Леночка-просто-Ленка писал(а):сын почти 9 лет служит.....
в армию идут детьми-там взрослеют и возвращаются мужиками!


И при этом у вашего сына семья? Мой знакомый в ФСБ работает.Так она у них дело до развода доходит.Она его почти не видит. На этой почве и скандалы.

На счет взросления - не уверена. Быть может у вас в армии все не так, как у нас в России...
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Re: Что даёт армия?

Сообщение Леночка-просто-Ленка » Пн фев 14, 2011 7:52 pm

У НАС ВСЯ СТРАНА АРМИЯ..НЕВЕСТКА СЛУЖИЛА ВМЕСТЕ С СЫНОМ В СПЕЦ БРИГАДЕ...А ЧЕРЕЗ НЕДЕЛЮ ПОСЛЕ СВАДЬБЫ ЕГО ПРИЗВАЛИ НА ГОДОВЫЕ КУРСЫ...ПРИЕЗЖАЛ НА ВЫХОДНЫЕ ..ТРИ РАЗА В МЕСЯЦ...НИЧЕГО..ПЕРЕЖИЛА...И СЕЙЧАС ВЫДЕРГИВАЮТ И НОЧЬЮ И В ПРАЗДНИКИ И В 5 УТРА....
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Сообщение nautilus » Пн фев 14, 2011 9:56 pm

ksenyako писал(а): Я не говорю про русскую, украинскую армию, там действуют свои жестокие законы.

Закон - соблюдать уставы! Если этого нет, значит нет и армии. Есть балаган и боевые действия неоднократно доказывали, что требования устава написаны кровью погибших товарищей в прямом смысле слова.
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Отдал службе энное количество лет и нисколько не жалею, я очень благодарен своим наставникам, которые меня многому научили в воинском искусстве. Армия существует для того, чтобы воевать, а это значит, что смерти неизбежны. И долг командира не допускать этого, он должен прилагать все свои умения на достижение выполнения поставленных задач и при этом беречь состав. Если в командире есть оба этих качества, значит подразделения, соединения всегда будут добиваться успехов, даже при неверных исходных данных.
Сейчас, вспоминая о прошлом, начинаешь понимать то, что тогда делалось на ура, это чистый авантюризм, свойственный молодым. Да, я бы ныне придумал кучу причин, чтобы не доводить подразделения до огневого столкновения с противником, ведь можно побеждать не открывая огня. А это есть самый лучший успех, в то время такие мысли в голову не приходили, было только одно - противника надо уничтожить. Нисколько не задумываясь, какие могут быть последствия для самого себя и для тех кто находится рядом. Или проводить операцию таким образом, чтобы не было ни одного выстрела в ответ.
Порой иногда берет злость на нынешнее молодое поколение, которое ничего не понимая в жизни, выдвигает воинственные лозунги. "Это же прикольно пострелять в кого-то", сказал мне один умник, студент одного из продвинутых ВУЗов. Хотелось мне ему многое рассказать, но подумал все равно не дойдет, не хочет понимать общество, что лучше жить в мире. Нет ничего хуже, когда твой друг, истекает кровью на твоих глазах, а ты ничем не можешь помочь ему. А вы вчера шутили, разговаривали, смеялись, а сейчас понимаешь, что вертушка не успевает....
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Сообщение oleg111 » Чт мар 19, 2015 5:49 pm

сколько в израиле нужно служить в армии???
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В зависимости от рода войск и возраста призывника от пол года до 3х лет. Девушки служат в Израиле 1.9 года.
На войне все средства хороши, и если ты не соблюдаешь правила форума, не удивляйся, если ты получишь именно этой бутылкой по голове.
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